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Of American history by diagnosing the systemic dysfunctions created by the Articles of Confederation manipulating the political process to force a calling of the Constitutional Convention conspiring to set the agenda in Philadelphia orchestrating the debate in the state ratifying conventions and finally drafting the Bill of Rights to assure state compliance with the constitutional settleme. Yes This is my 10th Revolutionary period book I ve read since the new year yeah I get on a kick sometimes and I ve been enjoying it all The part I have found most fascinating through it all is the actual creation of the government The sitting down bashing it and each other out and trying to create this never before seen government yes there have been republics but not like this and all previous eventually failed and all the compromise and wrangling that had to go into it well beyond what we can even comprehend And that this creation was so orchestrated by the few yet knowing that the masses likely just wanted to be let alone to get on with life leave them out of politics but all the while this momentous thing was happening ANYWAY This book is ALL about thatEllis has given an excellent account of this nation creation with a really excellent analysis of the thoughtsfeelingsmotivations surrounding it from so many sides He also covers the concept of what would the founding fathers think of xyz today and how that thought process doesn t really work like trying to plant cut flowers That realistically the one thing they d be amazed at is that the constitution they wrote was still in use He covers the serious moral compromises that had to be made and also that they didn t want the future to be stuck on notions of original intentI don t think I d recommend this as someone s first read into the era but for those who have a little bit than the avg Joe s knowledge about the period it s a great read and great for lovers of history Red Tail (Travis Trilogy year Promises in Tumble Creek yeah I get on a kick sometimes and I ve been enjoying it all The part I have found most fascinating through it all is the actual creation of the government The sitting down bashing it and each other out and trying to create this never before seen government Mischief and Marriage yes there have been republics but not like this and all previous eventually failed and all the compromise and wrangling that had to go into it well beyond what we can even comprehend And that this creation was so orchestrated by the few

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The uartet Orchestrating the Second American Revolution 1783 1789

Linuish their independence and accept the creation of a federal government with power over their individual autonomy  The uartet is the story of this second American founding and of the men responsible some familiar such as George Washington Alexander Hamilton John Jay and James Madison and some less so such as Robert Morris and Gouverneur Morris It was these men who shaped the contours. This might in reality be worth a third star but it s getting so many five star reviews that I had to downrate itEllis is writing primarily pablum when he s not outrightly wrongAnd he is outrightly wrong on a couple of major issues right at the startFirst while Charles Beard and his progressive historian followers may have overstated the importance of class issues whether in the American Revolution or the Constitutional Revolution even they weren t all wrong contra Ellis claims Indeed there s been a resurgence in a moderated version of Beard s thesisRelated to that Ellis presents a false dichotomy that the Constitutional Revolution can either be about confederationists vs nationalists OR democrats vs aristocrats but not both And if there s a totally wrong it s that false dichotomySecond Ellis gets the issue of slavery all wrongFirst of all at the Constitutional Convention nobody was arguing for abolition in fact nobody was even arguing for immediate cessation of slave importation The only argument was if slaves counted as people for census purposes while not counting for people otherwise or not THAT WAS ITSecondly Ellis ignores several new books that point out how deeply slavery was already a half decade before the cotton gin engrained in the American economyGerald Horne s The Counter Revolution of 1776 is a great starting pointThirdly he ignores that people like one of his uartet Hamilton and another founding father Franklin were both actually involved with abolition effortsThe third main issue as other reviewers note is to essentially dismiss the whole mindset behind Lincoln s fourscore and seven years at Gettysburg rather than noting that that was a deliberate stake in the ground an assertion that contra Ellis the United States did begin in 1776Ellis IMO goes further downhill with each new book with this one he accelerates his rate of decline

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The prizewinning author of  Founding Brothers  and   American Sphinx  now gives us the unexpected story brilliantly told of why the thirteen colonies having just fought off the imposition of a distant centralized governing power would decide to subordinate themselves anewThe triumph of the American Revolution was neither an ideological nor political guarantee that the colonies would re. Winning independence from Great Britain was only step one and probably less significant than the creation of our system of government The war had brought the colonies to a common cause but afterwards the debt was huge I was shocked to learn it was 40MM with no means to collect taxes they were voluntary by the articles of confederation Our young country didn t even consider itself a nation until 4 men took leadership Hamilton Madison Jay and reluctantly Washington Forming the United States was nearly inconceivable to the common man and far from the mind of the politicians of the day In fact most were strongly against anything that had the whiff of executive power in the wake of King George s legacy This is the story of the beginning of congress and the creation of the 3 bodies of our government that are today still the envy of the world It was not divinely ordained nor shrouded in the mist of providence it was born of old style political maneuvering and fierce debate and argument It was every bit as personal human and petty as we see today The argument of federal vs state vs individual power is built into our constitution so we shouldn t be surprised it is still alive and well What is surprising is the durability of our system This author feels that the founders themselves would likely be amazed that it is still intactEllis is a superb writer and takes full advantage of new sources and has read broadly on source documents His prose is spare and he honestly portrays the dissension in thought Mostly he sticks to the facts and actual content in the letters of these four men Ellis shares the outcome then reminds the reader with repetition of details as to how the matters were settled and came to be As such this does not read like a textbook but like riveting prose What I found interesting is that the brilliance of Hamilton and Madison was so far ahead of the rest of the officials and public that they had to slow down and wait for others to catch up Madison felt he had failed in the first closed debates but in hindsight realized that if he had forced a debate with all the delegates that the constitution would likely not have been ratified It could have failed if he had his way Madison the true architect poorly spoken diminutive convinced his three colleagues that a powerful federal government was the only way to proceed yet ultimately saw the wisdom in compromise and ambiguity in powers between the executive and the states The politics are fascinating All these men agreed that a true democracy would be fatal and that a republic was necessary such that elected representatives could properly filter ideas This was the genius where the platform popularly elected allowed the people to choose their leaders but avoid mob rule This resonates today with the discussion about the Electoral College instead of choosing by popular vote John Jay negotiated our treaty with Great Britain and Ellis asserts that getting the entire territory to the Mississippi was as critical to our future as winning independence This was before we had a concept of our geography and west of the Mississippi was France s and south was owned by Spain Interestingly the uestion of slavery would likely have sabotaged the possibility of a United States so it was mostly not talked about and our great sin was kicked down the road another 75 years History could have turned out very differently we could have become like Europe with the states warring and competing for resources With a combined national interest these four men intoned we could become recognized worldwide and leverage power for all Our natural enemies Great Britain and Spain in particular were laying in wait for us to become disorganized and certain colonies come back to them for their support We needed a treasury to have credit worldwide and instill confidence as a nationThe power of Virginia and New York in particular was such that they did not want unification They had to be sold and convinced often through back channels Jefferson was away in France as an ambassador and was pro Virginia not at all aligned with his prot g Madison Washington was the de facto leader and had to be begged to come out of retirement and battle for his legacy he was the only one with enough respect to pull that off In the end we barely became a nation and this would have changed world history forever Thanks to Ellis for a fascinating and entertaining read It is highly relevant today as I hope our system and the checks and balances will preserve the dream of individual liberty regardless of who we put in the white house


10 thoughts on “The uartet Orchestrating the Second American Revolution 1783 1789

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    Disclaimer If Joseph Ellis wrote about the mating habits of sea sponges in exhaustive and nauseating detail I’d probably read it And

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    Winning independence from Great Britain was only step one and probably less significant than the creation of our system of government The war had brought the colonies to a common cause but afterwards the debt was huge I was shocked to learn it was 40MM with no means to collect taxes they were voluntary by the articles of confederation Our

  4. says:

    Joseph Ellis' new book The uartet Orchestrating the Second American Revolution 1783 1789 examines the United States' movement from independence

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    This might in reality be worth a third star but it's getting so many five star reviews that I had to downrate itEllis is writing primarily pablum when he's not outrightly wrongAnd he is outrightly wrong on a couple of major issues right at t

  6. says:

    A fascinating work on the origins of the American Constitution Ellis who has authored other excellent historical analyses

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    George Washington aghast at the failure of Congress to properly feed and fund his ill euipped army during the fight with the British lamented “We have become a many headed monster a heterogeneous mass that never will nor can steer to the s

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    The Constitution was intended less to resolve arguments than to make argument itself the solution For judicial devotees of originalism or original intent this should be a disarming insight since it made the Constitution the foundation for an ever shifting political dialogue that like history itself was an argument without end Madison's original intention was to make all original intentions infinitely negotiab

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    Yes This is my 10th Revolutionary period book I've read since the new year yeah I get on a kick sometimes and I've been enjoying it all The part I have found most fascinating through it all is the actual creation of the government The sitting down bashing it and each other out and trying to create this never b

  10. says:

    In this interesting and readable book Joseph Ellis has made a valuable contribution to the explication of a period in United States history that is often overlooked and relatively poorly understood The period in uestion is the 1780’s that time between the acceptance of the Articles of Confederation and the final approval of the US Constitution a time when the lack of effectiveness of the former was increasin

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